Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/29/2000 05:11 PM House WTR

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             HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON WORLD TRADE                                                                             
                   AND STATE/FEDERAL RELATIONS                                                                                  
                        February 29, 2000                                                                                       
                            5:11 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ramona Barnes, Chair                                                                                             
Representative John Cowdery, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Beverly Masek                                                                                                    
Representative Joe Green                                                                                                        
Representative Ethan Berkowitz                                                                                                  
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gail Phillips                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  Alaska Seafood International                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE  JOINT   RESOLUTION  NO.  51,   Expressing  support   for  a                                                              
cooperative  United States-Canada  feasibility study on  extending                                                              
the North  American railroad system  through British  Columbia and                                                              
the Yukon Territory to Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   - MOVED HJR 51 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS ACTION                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HJR 51                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALASKA-CANADA RAIL FEASIBILITY STUDY                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Jrn-Date    Jrn-Page           Action                                                                                           
 1/31/00      2045     (H)  READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                     
 1/31/00      2045     (H)  WTR, TRA                                                                                            
 2/02/00      2075     (H)  COSPONSOR(S): WHITAKER, FOSTER, MASEK                                                               
 2/04/00      2103     (H)  COSPONSOR(S): KOTT, COGHILL, DAVIES                                                                 
 2/09/00      2155     (H)  COSPONSOR(S): CROFT, MURKOWSKI,                                                                     
                            HUDSON                                                                                              
 2/09/00      2155     (H)  THERRIAULT                                                                                          
 2/18/00      2238     (H)  COSPONSOR(S): OGAN                                                                                  
 2/23/00      2288     (H)  COSPONSOR(S): AUSTERMAN                                                                             
 2/28/00      2344     (H)  COSPONSOR(S): KEMPLEN                                                                               
 2/29/00               (H)  WTR AT  5:00 PM CAPITOL 124                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOWARD BENEDICT, Chairman                                                                                                       
Alaska Seafood International (ASI)                                                                                              
1007 West Third Avenue                                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented information on ASI.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JEANNETTE JAMES                                                                                                  
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Capitol Building, Room 102                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT:  Sponsor of HJR 51.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BILL BROPHY, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Fairbanks Industrial Development Corporation                                                                                    
515 Seventh Avenue, Suite 320                                                                                                   
Fairbanks, Alaska 99712,                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of HJR 51.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 00-4, SIDE A                                                                                                               
Number 0001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMONA  BARNES called the  House Special Committee  on World                                                              
Trade and  State/Federal Relations meeting  to order at  5:11 p.m.                                                              
Members present at the call to order  were Representatives Barnes,                                                              
Cowdery, Masek, Green, Berkowitz and Joule.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  Alaska Seafood International                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0077                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BARNES  introduced  Howard  Benedict,  Chairman  of  Alaska                                                              
Seafood International.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HOWARD  BENEDICT, Chairman,  Alaska  Seafood International  (ASI),                                                              
began    by  distributing  pictures   of  the  new  ASI  plant  in                                                              
Anchorage.  He said  it had been built at a cost  of $125 million,                                                              
$50 million  of which had been  provided by the legislature.   The                                                              
new facility  is the largest seafood  plant in the  United States,                                                              
and the most technologically advanced  seafood processing plant in                                                              
the world.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0433                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT explained  that unlike a primary  processor who takes                                                              
a fresh fish, removes the head, cleans  out the belly, and sends a                                                              
whole fish to  market, ASI does value-added  processing, packaging                                                              
seafood so  that it is ready to  cook and eat.  Mr.  Benedict said                                                              
people  today  want  seafood  already   portioned  and  coated  or                                                              
marinated.   Therefore, ASI's goal is  to make seafood as  easy to                                                              
cook as a hamburger or hot dog.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  said that when the  chicken industry learned  to put                                                              
its   product  into   manageable  amounts,   with  exact   cooking                                                              
instructions and sauces  and coatings, the industry  took off; the                                                              
average American  now eats  76 pounds  of chicken  each year.   By                                                              
contrast,  that average  consumer  eats only  about  15 pounds  of                                                              
fish.   Thus ASI  intends to do  the same thing  with fish  as was                                                              
done with chicken, and it is well on the way to doing it.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0650                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  described the  plant, which  has almost seven  acres                                                              
under its roof.  Production began  in January, and ASI now has 120                                                              
employees.  At full  production, at the end of next  year, it will                                                              
employ about 450  people year-round.  Behind that  are another 750                                                              
jobs in rural Alaska harvesting the fish.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT said the plant ultimately  will have eight production                                                              
lines.   Already operating is  the fresh seafood  department, with                                                              
three lines  for salmon/cod,  halibut and  flatfish.  Those  three                                                              
lines together will produce 25 million  pounds of fish a year.  He                                                              
said ASI  now is adding  a frozen seafood  department.   Its lines                                                              
will  produce   formed  portions,   breaded  seafood,   soups  and                                                              
chowders.  When finished in 2001,  it will bring the plant's total                                                              
employment  to  450.   Mr.  Benedict  reported  especially  strong                                                              
demand for entrees, restaurant-sized  portions with seasonings and                                                              
sauces, ready for the oven and ready to serve in five minutes.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1111                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BENEDICT explained  that  ASI has  invested  very heavily  in                                                              
research and  development, creating  250 unique seafood  products,                                                              
all easy  to prepare.   Major  goals are  to make Alaskan  seafood                                                              
taste as  good Outside as  it does in  Alaska, and  to accommodate                                                              
the industry with  value-added processing that makes  seafood easy                                                              
to cook.  Thus ASI development has  intentionally concentrated  on                                                              
the fish hardest  for Alaskans to sell, the pink  and chum salmon,                                                              
because Alaska  has a  surplus of  them.   The ASI salmon  burger,                                                              
made of pink  salmon, has been  judged better tasting than  all of                                                              
its competition.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1280                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  asked where ASI is getting  its chum salmon.                                                              
He recommended fall chums from the Yukon and Kotzebue Sound.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  said ASI is trying  to buy quality seafood  from all                                                              
over Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1360                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  described some  of the  things the ASI  microbiology                                                              
lab is developing  to help fishermen.   One is an additive  to ice                                                              
that will  enable fishermen  to stay out  twice as long  and still                                                              
bring in a very high-quality product.   He said ASI is sending its                                                              
quality  control people  out  to all  the  processing plants  from                                                              
which it buys,  providing education to help them  produce a better                                                              
product that  can command  a higher  price.   The company  also is                                                              
encouraging processors  to operate in the winter,  guaranteeing to                                                              
buy 100  percent of  their winter production.   Mr. Benedict  said                                                              
that means  more year-round  jobs for  Alaskans and better  prices                                                              
for the fish.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1579                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  then asked to speak  very frankly to  the committee.                                                              
He said he should not have had to  spend 13 years putting together                                                              
the ASI operation.   The problem,  he said, was that there  was no                                                              
money.   The  legislature tries  to  solve its  budget problem  by                                                              
cutting expenditures,  but it  often neglects  looking at  ways to                                                              
increase revenues.   The state does  very little to  encourage new                                                              
businesses that  would create  new jobs.   He credited  the Alaska                                                              
Development Association  (ADA), the  legislature and  Chair Barnes                                                              
with making a critical difference in his venture.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1840                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT made  it clear that he was not  advocating setting up                                                              
a  bureaucracy,   another  state  agency.     But  he   urged  the                                                              
legislators  to  set up  a  fund of  about  $100 million  to  help                                                              
finance new business ventures.  If  he had had that, the ASI plant                                                              
would  have been  running  for seven  years.   This  state has  no                                                              
shortage of good  people with good ideas, he said,  but they can't                                                              
find financing  for the early  stages of a  project like ASI.   He                                                              
advocated  creating a  fund and  enlisting two  or three  venture-                                                              
capital groups in the Lower 48, as  does the Permanent Fund Board,                                                              
to help raise money.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 2006                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT emphasized  that Alaska is shipping out  logs when it                                                              
should be shipping  out plywood.  And it ships out  crude oil when                                                              
the state ought to have a petrochemical industry.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE  asked if  ASI  would be  in  a position  to                                                              
consider  not only  fish  from the  sea, but  also  fish from  the                                                              
state's river systems.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  said yes.  He added,  "Our job, as we see  it, is to                                                              
enhance any good fish we can get in Alaska."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[There  was   discussion  of  specialty  markets   for  whitefish,                                                              
sheefish and pike.]                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 2270                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY  asked whether ASI still  was concentrating                                                              
on selling its fish within the United States.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  said plans  call for  concentrating on the  domestic                                                              
market  for the  first  two years,  then  looking  overseas.   The                                                              
Pacific Rim  is a most attractive  market, since it  represents 32                                                              
times the U.S. market.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY  asked about the nature of  the U.S. market                                                              
that ASI has now.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT said  it appears that two-thirds of  sales will be to                                                              
food service (restaurants), and about  one-third will be to retail                                                              
supermarkets.   One  surprise ASI  has found is  that buyers  want                                                              
consistent  supply year-round,  not  just  seasonally, which  will                                                              
take up all  their frozen capacity  very quickly; ASI may  want to                                                              
double its freezer capacity to 64 million pounds.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COWDERY asked  about  the procedure  ASI uses  for                                                              
freezing.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  said it is  very "high  tech."  The average  primary                                                              
processor  freezes fish  in  about two  hours,  during which  time                                                              
water in  the fish causes the  cell structure to expand  and break                                                              
down, resulting  in a mushy  fish.  ASI  freezes fish at  minus 48                                                              
degrees,  which takes  just 20  minutes.   He said  he thinks  the                                                              
market will pay for the quality.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2439                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   COWDERY  asked   about   possible  economies   in                                                              
shipping,  taking advantage  of freight  containers  that are  now                                                              
going back empty.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  said ASI has taken  every advantage it can.   And by                                                              
paying  for back-haul,  ASI  is going  to lower  the  cost of  the                                                              
front-haul for everybody.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  asked if ASI could take  advantage of bypass                                                              
mail rates on back-haul.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BARNES said she thinks that  Alaska is the only state in the                                                              
Union that  uses bypass mail, and  that Northern Air Cargo  does a                                                              
lot of it within the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE said that only  recently has bypass mail been                                                              
used for fish, and that it could  eliminate a lot of the high cost                                                              
of transporting fish from rural Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  suggested that  if rural areas  could fly  fish into                                                              
Anchorage, they would be very competitive with other producers.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  said that would be especially  true if those                                                              
rural areas had access to ASI's ice  additive to help maintain the                                                              
quality of the fish.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 2670                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY wanted to  know if ASI planned to deal with                                                              
shellfish.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  said the company  probably will in  time, especially                                                              
to use as a stuffing for some of the products.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BARNES asked  if  most of  the 450  ASI  employees will  be                                                              
working in processing.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT  said yes.   In  response to  a further question,  he                                                              
said they  start at  about $9  an hour  plus fringe benefits  that                                                              
include a medical  plan.  He said ASI wants employees  to stay for                                                              
years.   ASI is  building a day  care center  on the grounds,  and                                                              
currently is contributing  $240 a month toward child  care for any                                                              
employee earning less than $35,000 a year.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2787                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BARNES reminded  Mr. Benedict that she previously  had asked                                                              
him if ASI could  train and hire some people  from the welfare-to-                                                              
work program.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BENEDICT said the company is  working with three or four state                                                              
and  city agencies,  and  hiring as  many of  those  people as  it                                                              
possibly can.   He mentioned that  one of the  toughest challenges                                                              
to  selling fish  at  retail in  the Lower  48  is that  customers                                                              
complain that  when they cook it,  it smells up the kitchen.   The                                                              
ASI  research and  development people  attacked  that problem  and                                                              
have  found  a  way  to  eliminate  the  fishy  smell.    [End  of                                                              
presentation.]                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HJR 51-ALASKA-CANADA RAILROAD FEASIBILITY STUDY                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 00-4, SIDE B                                                                                                               
Number 2921                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BARNES  announced that  the next item  of business  would be                                                              
HOUSE  JOINT   RESOLUTION  NO.  51,   expressing  support   for  a                                                              
cooperative  United States-Canada  feasibility study on  extending                                                              
the North  American railroad system  through British  Columbia and                                                              
the Yukon Territory to Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2881                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JEANNETTE JAMES, Alaska  State Legislature, sponsor                                                              
of HJR  51, introduced the  resolution.  She  said this is  a very                                                              
high  priority  of  Alaska  U.S.  Senator  Frank  Murkowski.    In                                                              
January,  at his  request, an  Alaska-Canada Rail-Link  Conference                                                              
was  held  in  Vancouver,  British Columbia  (BC).    Among  those                                                              
attending  were  people  from  the   Yukon  and  BC,  chambers  of                                                              
commerce,   industries,   businesses   and  governments.      This                                                              
resolution  [HJR  51]  was  drafted  at  the  request  of  Senator                                                              
Murkowski  to  bring  a  message  from  the  legislature  that  it                                                              
supports his efforts  to establish a bilateral  commission to work                                                              
on a  feasibility study.   Drafting  of HJR 51  was done  with the                                                              
assistance of  Senator Murkowski's staff,  and he has  now drafted                                                              
federal legislation  to fund the U.S.  portion of the cost  of the                                                              
feasibility  study.    Representative  James  provided  copies  of                                                              
"Rails to Resources," the report on the conference in Vancouver.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2702                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL BROPHY, Executive Director,  Fairbanks Industrial Development                                                              
Corporation  (FIDC), testified by  teleconference from  Fairbanks.                                                              
He said  the FIDC  supports and encourages  initiatives  to expand                                                              
rail transportation  within Alaska  and to  establish a  rail link                                                              
from Alaska connecting  with the Canadian and  North American rail                                                              
system.  This initiative will afford  tremendous opportunities for                                                              
economic   growth   and   development,   create   new   employment                                                              
opportunities,  enhance military  defense,  and allow  responsible                                                              
utilization of significant natural  resources.  There are enormous                                                              
amounts  of   unrealized  resources  including   forest  products,                                                              
minerals and agriculture, as well  as tremendous opportunities for                                                              
all-season  tourism.     Railroad   expansion  will   enhance  and                                                              
facilitate an intermodal transportation  network for Fairbanks and                                                              
Interior Alaska.   He  urged moving  forward with the  feasibility                                                              
study to make this connective link a reality.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2597                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MASEK  made  a  motion  to  move  HJR  51  out  of                                                              
committee  with individual  recommendations  and the  accompanying                                                              
fiscal notes.  There  being no objection, HJR 51  was moved out of                                                              
the  House Special  Committee  on  World Trade  and  State/Federal                                                              
Relations.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2526                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY  commented on the decreasing  usefulness of                                                              
the Panama Canal, citing concern  from both Europe and the Pacific                                                              
Rim that an alternative way is needed  to get products to the East                                                              
Coast  of  the United  States.    He was  enthusiastic  about  the                                                              
possibility of shipping by railroad instead.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JAMES   said  there  definitely  is   interest  in                                                              
extending the railroad line to Russia;  however, this is Phase One                                                              
and that will  be Phase Three.   It will take six to  ten years to                                                              
complete  this  connection between  Fairbanks  and  the Lower  48.                                                              
Once the line  reaches Fairbanks, Senator Murkowski  is interested                                                              
in  extending it  up to  the Northwest  Arctic  coal reserves  and                                                              
bringing  coal down  to  the Red  Dog  Mine.   That  will make  it                                                              
possible  to do more  refining there  instead  of sending out  all                                                              
heavy concentrates  to be  smelted elsewhere.   The link  with the                                                              
Northwest Arctic would be Phase Two.   The Russians definitely are                                                              
interested  in a  third phase;  this surface  transportation is  a                                                              
valid concept.  Today's ships are  too big for Panama Canal, which                                                              
has lived its lifetime.  Surface  transportation is needed.  It is                                                              
easier to  clean up  environmental spills on  land, and  easier to                                                              
control.  [HJR 51 was moved out of committee.]                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on World Trade and State/Federal Relations                                                                    
meeting was adjourned at 6:12 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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